![]() ![]() 38 ACP pistols because the cartridge is exactly the same, just loaded significantly hotter. 38 Super Automatic - Downloaded then designated as +P by default because they could cause the catastrophic failure of old. 45 Long Colt - Downloaded because Smokeless Powder loads could cause the catastrophic failure of old 1800s revolvers with iron frames which were designed for Black Powder loads. I'm sure their secret is in the powder they use.Ĭlick to expand.Isn't that just the oldest story ever told? Seriously, is there a single cartridge in circulation which didn't start off loaded significantly hotter, but got downloaded because it was too powerful for the majority of firearms which were chambered for it at the time? I can't match 'em in the short barrel with that bullet weight, have to move up to 140 grains. Heck, their 125 grain loads out of a 2" gun are simply amazing. :rofl: If I felt the need for a commercial defense round in. Buffalo Bore don't load down to suit SAAMI standards, either. Reloading manuals now reflect this change, but I still load from my old Speer number 11 and have tried and true loads that ain't broke, so I never fixed 'em.Īnd, I can tell ya this. ![]() When police organizations were using K frames, it was a problem. Also, S&W had been having problems with their K frames splitting forcing cones and shooting themselves loose with enough punishment. 357, so I'm suspecting it was this intro that caused SAAMI to reduce pressure standards, possibly under S&W's pressure to do so. At about this time, the Smith and Wesson J frames came out in. What I can say is that in the early 90s, SAAMI lowered the pressure standard from 46K CUP down to 35K for. I have never really tried to work up a load for a 357 mag in a snubby but to get reasonable performance I would think you would need a very fast powder, a fast powder would likely spike pressure pretty quick and a low charge so I doubt that you could get very close to 357 mag power even then out of a 2 incher? same with the 38 Super, IF you reload then you can get great performance, if factory pretty much ho hum in most factory loads. One of MY things about wheel guns chambered for semi auto calibers is just that-WHY?- I mean maybe IF you reload you can get a tad of difference in a 2 inch revolver but in factory loads likely not much. ![]() I don't have a commander 1911 in the caliber however, would like an alloy framed and would carry it for sure.Īlthough I do carry a 1911 alloy framed 45 occasionally.īut getting back to the Op, so much depends on the projectile weight and powder selection for a really short barreled gun. You can load rounds without the moon clip, and they fire just fine, but then they will have to be manually ejected with a pencil or something like that.As most know I am very fond of the 38 super as well. I don't know how prone they are to bending, or how easy they are to load without a moon clip tool, but it makes me hesitate. The big strike against 9mm is that you pretty much have to use the moon clips. Additionally you can get 9mm HST, and there's no HST loads for the revolver cartridges. The chrono testing I saw for the 9mm LCR was giving velocities about equal to a 3"-barrel semiauto. 357 is more powerful, but the 9mm loses less velocity. 357 magnum is that the 9mm is much more efficient than the. There was the smooth boot grip, which was one of the best examples of its kind, the Hogue Tamer grip with the gel cushion and finger grooves, and the new full-size grip from the 3" LCRx, which looks super comfortable. I am not sure if you can still get the boot grip version from the factory, I know they discontinued the model that had it on there stock, which was a shame. There are/were three grip options that are all very good. I am very interested in the 9mm version myself. The LCR is an outstanding carry revolver.
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